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Episode 8 · 1 year ago

Episode 8 - Nanae's 25th Anniversary Show Review, Mizunami vs Nakajima Spotlight

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Beyond the SEA cast returns for its eighth episode. 

The guys kick off the show by discussing Nanae Takahashi's 25th anniversary, before previewing the 6th Anniversary Beyond the SEA title match between new champion Ryo Mizunami and challenger Arisa Nakajima; by looking at their most recent singles meeting (SEAdLINNNG Jump Up! in 2016)

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to the beyond the sea cast. I'm comrade, and there's always I'm joined by vowel. Hello, Fel, how are you? Hello, I'm pretty good, pretty good, pretty good on this on this Tuesday night. We've got any pretty nice EPIs. We've got a pretty LAE episode looking looking up for us. So yeah, I'm pretty mature to go and pretty excited to do this. Yeah, absolutely, we had were recording a day later than usual. That's partly my fault, but yeah, we've had a pretty neat show to talk about. I think probably one of seedlings best shows of the year. From when looking at like the semi main man event kind of overall quality of the show, I think it is definitely up there in terms of the best of the year, the Nano Tagahashi twenty five anniversary show, which we kind of looked into last week. Just kind of to begin with, vowel, what like your general thoughts on the show as a whole, like from like it as a top to bottom thing, like we'll jump in so much as in a minute. The show was. Yeah, this show was a very fun to watch. Like musty shows really are pretty fun, easy, easy to watch. This one particular. Really I thought like the UNDERCARD, well, the kids match and the the exhibition tag with a Missa Kora and that Tikutio was pretty good, pretty funny, should say so. Like. So, like, yeah, like the short of matches were pretty fun and then you had just two absolute banger of matches to conclude the show. Then also the Lord Fun, Fun considered from Frankist. So yeah, everything up on this show was pretty good and, as you said, like, globally, I would probably put this yell on the other end of the of the seat of the settling shows this year. Yeah, absolutely, like I think. Yeah, the kids match was good at the star like and, as you say, like there were two, two very different matches in terms of the way that they were worked, but I think they were two very, very good matches in the semmiment an event, main event. But yeah, let's start with the the opening tyc match. What were your general thoughts on that? What did you think of beast kid and I MSSAMORA teaming up again? Just generally, what did you think of that? Much? That much was pretty fun to watch. I like. I like how they managed to get to get a good bunch of thing across. You had honori and Enrico keeping on putting gets a pretty much allial rivalry, keeping on building, you know, me, some more re getting too. There's a kid just a kept mowing. anyways. Yeah, you know, Miss Maria getting getting a lot of apportey to shine in death match, just as it was receiling debut. And as for the team of I am me and record, they look pretty good together having some nice take offense. So yeah, globally it's a pretty good up in her I like what they did with it and I'm pretty much looking for I'm pretty much been looking forward to whatever things go for the wherever things cool, I should say, for the team over your misses, a Rodricok age especially. Yeah, I'm asolutely in agreement there. Yeah, it was my first introduction to to Mizumuri here and I think she was she was really good. As you say, this is a really good opening match. I think how how much Henry, Hannah and Enrico Kaid you have kind of progressed since the beginning of the year and kind of like the fact that they've added more moves to their ass and and some of it was kind of I don't know, it it seems difficult to do as kind of like an outside was someone who is just watching it, hasn't done it before. It looks difficult to do. So the fact that they've kind of gone from the largely kind of largely rookie form let's a kind of gradually adding like, some really neat moves and kind of building their ...

...own styles over the past year there's been really cool to see. But yeah, I'm ambes. Kids are very good tag team together and I don't send yet. Obviously we've as we'll talk about properly a minute will. We've got another kind of young, upstart tag team challenging. Yeah, that this tick the boxes for an opening take. I think it was good, good showcase, good amount of time and yeah, really solid stuff. Moving on to the second match on that card, which was a Riho Kowahatta and Rinne amasheea against Yumikohata and Makoto. This I was kind of expecting it to be similar to the Rinney Amasheetera and Henory Hannah Against Nana, Takahashi and Aska match that we saw at the ARESA and I could Jim Produce Show earlier this year where we kind of had the the two partners that didn't want to work together, and then you had really amachiater and her partner, who got along quite well. And then it was going to lead to the kind of the youngest wrestler in that match kind of getting maybe like taking the veteran in, in this case it would be hotter in in the situation, to a time of a drawing kind of Ella being elevated. But like what? We didn't get that. I think it was a good enough showcase and it did what it needed to do again, and I don't I wasn't expecting the finish. I was kind of expecting Rico Koahatta to get to be involved in the winning four, but I'd like the fact that it kind of the finish. It kind of came out of nowhere. But yeah, it was good. I think I preferred the opening match to this, but they're both were good. But yeah, well, what did you think of this? Yeah, first things first here, I'm Inn grooment with you win the sense that I did prefer the opening measure this one. Then honestly like this match. To me it's it's one of those which, when I watched it live, like I enjoyed it but looking back on it, like there's not much I remember from it. Like it's not one of those which really stick to met really stick with me. But otherwise it was a good pretty enjoyable I like to see Rico, Rico Kohta, getting more and she gets more and more as as he show, as each show shows passing on. So it's good to see her developing. There was you had this this little funny sequences between maco too and Umi Code. I still so. I guess you still had a little bit of the dysfunctional tech team part it will. It was cool to see a Oh tighter in nice to go shirt short as well. So yeah, pretty fun match. Not Quite on the level of the opening one to me, but still still a pretty fun matched and more than decent for for the undercode. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think we're pretty were on the same page. Yet it's I think, since I've like the more I watch, I think hearts is kind of hitting mess in some areas. Like sometimes she looks quite poor, but then when she's doing stuff with like, say when she's just doing not the strike and exchanges with the likes of rinning em, she's as she looks like. It kind of a place I have strength more. I think this last kind a few months especially, it's kind of show me that my Coso is actually quite good at wrestling and it's kind of she's kind of gone into the radar for me for quite a while. So I'm kind of glad that she's being given the spot more and more to kind of show what she can do. Next we have this this for me, I guess. I think it was meant to be. It was more of like a fun exhibition thing, but I didn't like there were some moments where I kind of it was like, Oh, yeah, that's that's not the best. Like there were a few slippots. But yeah, the the seven minute tag team match which went to the drawer. It was it was okay. It was like Kotok and it was fun, but I think that's kind of the point. But yeah, it wasn't really honestly, it wasn't really my...

...cup of tea. You know, I didn't really know why it was kind of when, especially when done, I had the bigger, the bigger match later on against the reason like a gymmer in the main event and it looked at times like she was going to lose, which I don't know, it didn't really make sense, but yeah, what did you think of this, this seven minute exhibition? Honestly, I hated a we I would look at this as just a celebration in terms of net sucure returning to net kin Mamo. We're returning to wrestling, and that's pretty much all. Daddy was just trying to celebrate these two legends returning to the ring and having a fun olding, no matter no whether of the were slip ups or whatever. At the end of the day you could till that everyone you're digging wasn't in the ring, was having fun, and that's pretty much my only takeaway. Like the girls had the woman had fun. Everyone, we're on a quot looked like they were entering themselves, and that's all I can really take away because, like as you as you say, like as an actual wrestling match, it's not exactly the greatest things or there or a bunch of sleep ups, but still, like you could tell that Densukei, for example, is still looking pretty damn good, and as do as the head trainer of seedling. Like you can tell, she's still pretty demo clating in everything. So, yeah, like to meet was just it was just a fun o thing. It didn't you didn't last. It didn't over a welcome the time he was given, if that's the correct formulation up fully. Hopefully that makes sense. But yeah, like fun match. Didn't think too much of it. Best out attend. I think that's pretty much the best way to take is really. Yeah, I think I think I'm an agreement there. I think the time that it was with kind of it was exactly. It was how long it needed to be. It is, it was just a celebration of light to remember. Turned to the ring. It was nice see Emmy Sakura in a seedling ring as well and when I yeah, yeah, sorry, I'm trying to thought for a second there, but yeah, it was just it was nice. The opening sequence I was quite taken aback by. I was kind of expecting to kind of start off slow, but yeah, for them to do like a really quite high paced, like a fair few moving parts opening sequence like that was was got seeing. It paid off for the most part and it was yeah, good. It was good stuff. I think they fall onto the card quite nicely and kind of I think the two matches that followed it kind of looked better because of it. And yet moving on to the the first of those, those two. The first was the beyond the seat title match, which we kind of discussed about the placement on the card last week when we previewed the show and the house in the semimi event. This was Aska's first defense of the the beyond the seat title, if I'm not mistaken, for the singles title at least, and surprisingly, in My v Zero Defense in depending on how you look at it, in somewhat of an upset loss, I guess. But yeah, folowing to throw out to you first, like generally, what did you think of the title change in the match as a whole? First, first of all, as the match itself, I really liked the dynamic that they put on. Everything was made to make Luke Askar as very dominant and, besides, her having no defense as champion prod to this, and it was a really obviously it's our first beyond the stadalign like, besides being a champion which at the end of day became traditional, the dismatch really managed to make her look like a strong champion and I think that was very needed, given given the result and given just the whole context little match. Really like the work on the arm was both,...

...but it was pretty great. But I think what what I really enjoyed about this what was how some of this, some of the spots, and I just a stuff that Haski was doing look really damn nasty and that just added to to everything that the match was trying to build up to Miss Nami's big come back. In the way she won, everything was made yet to to make look to make Hask look like a strong champion and missing Ami look like a very deserving new champion. So that was pretty great. As for the title change itself, Not gonna lie, I was surprised. I did not expect it was called. I was kind of guard. I think I think you were as well. But now, as I got to discuss it a little bit more with with people on twitter, it got me to a point where I'm not exactly shocked that it happened, because as so young and she already has the tag belts to defend and and the other side of the coin, you've got reason missingam me, who's got who's much more experienced, and that tail rain, I think, is longer you for her. And then you've got you've got the fact that she just comes back from hew and she's pretty much a bigger start and almost on a world world on a worldwide spectrum. I mean she pretty much is a bigger star than anyone else on the roster at this point, at least from a worldwide and a Western centered kind of perspective. So, at the end of the day, like I was shocked when I watched it, but like, looking back on the result, I'm not really shocked and I fully accepted as as a great decision and I think, I think any key is going to be a great chimpian. So I'm really looking forward to the rain that and wherever it goes, and we're gonna be able to talk about them. Her first fit efntil the later. So yeah, definitely looking forward to everything in the match was great. So I've got only I only have praise to give to this match. Yeah, I'm pretty much in the same boat. Like it was so, so, so, so, so good. Yeah, it was just it was a good time it went. When see minutes, so just short of twenty, I believe, seventeen, seventeen etree. Yeah, this this flew by more than the main event did, if I'm being honest, like I like the fact that they kind of started the the arm work early and they they kind of kept that for the most part. Like it was a little bit disappointing that kind of like the more the match went on, the kind of left consistent. The like the arm selling was by missing army, which isn't it isn't like a major right because it's still kind of played apart. But I don't know, I was kind of expecting her to kind of use so that when she was throwing the Larry it's rather than go into the arm that ask word worked on from the start, like kind of using her other arm until like those strikes weren't working in and being forced to go to the right arm instead of, you know, like literally just straight away using the injured arm and kind of, I guess, fighting for the pain, but I don't know, that's kind of that's kind of a minor right, but it was good. Yeah, I could pretty much nothing else to add, like, like, as you said, like the the bits of his little inconsistency of about the the late the leg and not the lady the arms selling, like you can explain it thread during the lean and the wilt fare trouping and it fits. It fits real missamy as a character. So it's not something that truly disturbered me old dead much, even though I'm someone who's pretty damned peaky when it comes to selling. Like it's one of those things I can look at it be like yeah, yeah, it's like I can get bead and dad still and it doesn't really hurt out hold a match was to me. So yeah, yeah, I think I'm the same light, even with...

...like the outcome of the matches, as she said earlier, was kind of a slightly shocking, but then if you kind of look more on it, there's I don't think there's as much of an issue with it as like some people were maybe making out, especially myself. I was kind of when I first watched us at all great, like they've literally just wasted ascar like proper Internet wrestling fun. What worst people on the planet? I'm Jane, but yeah, like, honestly, I think askers is twenty two, so it's really not that big of a deal and she's a freelancer, so it's not like she's going to go anywhere real is an army. Looks like there's a possibility if they're going back to aw at some points. So this this will be a good, good run. I don't mind how long it last. Obviously there's going to be yeah, I think it asks run, did what it needs to do. I think it was kind of we're still going to go back to Yoshiko as champion, like when she comes back, I think. But yeah, I think they've picked the too. Well, at least two right people. I'm just hoping that this, this doesn't go straight into in a reason. I could Gyma rain at the six anniversary show. Yeah, working it. We're going to be able to discuss at a little other the leader. How about we move on the well, to actually the recently kid, you manage like King Snelata Gush She. Yep, there's a certainly a main event. That happened. Yeah, pretty damn good monment. Yeah, excellent main event. Honestly, I'll be honest, like going into it, I was kind of I mentioned I mentioned it before, like when we've discussed this much the the kind of the significance of the hair versus hair. I wasn't sure if they were kind of if it was a good idea to go about to it, because I was thinking, like the quality of that match and the stipulation that it had was kind of it may be a bit of a challenge for this follow up, like, even though it's two years later, to kind of actually live up to expectations, knowing what we've had in the past. But honestly, this was really blooming good. Honestly, it was. I think it's it's definitely top five, maybe top three, match of the year. I think the time that the length of it was good. The kind of structure starting off is like groundwork and then kind of Nane I taking it to the outside of then kind of she I think she left a resars to recover and that was kind of detrimental, and then it was kind of a few spots for none I, but it kind of seemed like rry so was never really in doubt. I think it was the right result. The some of the spots were like when I'm watching wrestling with other people in the room, I just kind of sit there quietly, even if like all of my reactions are internalized, but I was off my seat kind of gasping quite a few times, like the head put to the back of the heads and the DDT to the outside and the double stumps that followed it. I was like, Oh my God. Yeah, this was the return of bad bitch as Nakajima, and I'd quite quite like some more of that, please. Exactly. She's just so great and putting an in position of violence and making pretty much every single thing that she does look so damn nasty. And the way that the violence in this match managed to to grow consistently as the match went on and reach new levels, like and somehow, like, as you said, like it was very difficult entering into really imagine something that would come anything close to the air versus air match, of course, in terms of global contest context, I should say, but also as that match was so damn great image, like just imagine having to follow it up,...

...even even though it's two years later, and they fully, they floated up so well, so so well. As for the result, like it's the it's the only result that I think anybody could have expected. Of course, like, of course I RESA was going to win, like she was the one who needed this the most. And Yeah, like this match like as the as the document that we have to to plan this podcast. Like I suggested that this was a strong match of the air contener, but like it's not even a suggestion, like it's it just an observation really, like I don't know if you like. Yeah, more than five matches were better than this one, at least from the ones I watched. It's it's so amazing. You think it's really, really amazing. Yeah, like I reason and I like. It's one of the spairings to just never ever miss. Yeah, absolutely, like I kind of picked up on a few things like that made this match like kind of put it right up there in terms of match of the year. If I remember correctly, their last match, and the hair versus hair obviously, was a rested didn't hit the D B D which like the the leg, the leg capture German suplex like until the very end, and then here it wasn't enough to pick up the win, so she had to res results of the head. But so I think that's kind of like a nice little bit of progression, if if you can call it that. But I really liked at the beginning as well, they kind of set the dynamic as kind of I think now I was kind of more emotional about the whole situation, obviously, being the partner that was kind of turned on all kind of not even betrayed, because it wasn't. This is kind of I guess now I kind of seemed like the hurt, kind of not underdog, but you know, I mean it felt like sus something to prove really and a Resa was kind of like this cold kind of calculating you saw it in a face at the start the match, like she's got stood there in the corner one and I kind of approached it. It was it was just it was so well put together. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. It was just so well put together and there's kind of like little subtle kind of details and that just made it so it was just really, really great, like I enjoyed it so much, like it's one of those matches, a thing which like not only I think it's going to stay really, really high on our lists by the end of the year, but as we look back, as we look back on this, maybe like a year from now, two years, maybe he'll five years from now, I think it's still going to look like one of the, possibly one of the best matches of the twenties, maybe like it's it's really something that I think you can look back here, you can look look back here indeed few years from now and it's still going to look as great everything is going to be. How I'm going to formulate this. I guess it's one of those matches which is never going to look cold, you know, like some some matches you look you you look at them and you've kind of feel like the sort of age badly, I guess, and I feel like when this one is not going to be one of those, like it's sing one of those you can just go back to it at any point and you're good. You're going to have the same level of enjoyment, you're going to have the same level of intensity. It's in that sense it's almost perfect, I think. Yeah, so I think it's one of those matches as well. But you can kind of watch in a bubble like and not kind of Hal to have anything to kind of understand why it's good or what's happening. But then you if you kind of if you know the story, it's even better. I think it's one of those matches and it's kind of hard to do in like, especially when there's so much kind of focus on like long term like over arching narratives and stuff, and to kind of have these individual pieces that all link together but also work well on their own is quite something. Yea. So now that we've got our thoughts on the whole show about tem how about we...

...move on to the little bits of announcements that we have? Well, that we had coming up this show in a twere well des announcement. That should be for the for the next the next show, distiling anniversary short. least we know that one of those of those announcements in terms of matches, like one of them is going to a pound between to happen next month. We can assume that the other ones can happen next month as well. Yeah, so we had two title challenges for this for this next show. The first and I guess, the biggest one, and now I'll leave that so after because it's the links into the match that we're covering. The first was a tag title of defense for last e goes. We're Aska and Makoto will defend against Ricka kwahassa and Hanoi Hannah who, as you're probably know, unsuccessfully defend, unsuccessfully challenge, sorry for the beyond the seat tag titles back in I think it was the one of the Dojo shows earlier this year. Yeah, I believe. If I believe, the first one. I don't want to be mistaken. Let's see, because I've got a good whole disceeming rids olds right there. Yeah, it was the first. It was the first one, just after the the RECONIC EGIMA produced. Yeah, the April twenty six show. That was done. Yes, that's the that's the first one. This will be interesting, considering it's only been like two months since their last challenge, like and we haven't seen much of them teaming. But yeah, hopefully. Well, they should be good. The seed linked. Well, seedling tag tole much is always good. I'm just intrigued by the fact that they went with the same exact pairing for the challenge. Like, obviously, in terms of dynamic, like you, I don't think you really had that many options beside these two. Yeah, I guess it feels slightly hard to have the same pairing challenging like almost twice, almost three months here, with like tree months support almost and we, I guess, to the preconceived idea that essentially dis change, your team is most likely going to lose because you don't really expect lessay go to have a another, another run where we're we're the champion. Just cannot defend successfully there and their belts. So in that since I was a little bit surprised yet that I guess it's when it's one of those matches where it's not so much about the titles, but I was trying to put over the younger talents, in defeat of course, but trying to put them over and making them look good. So I I the end of the day, I think, as you said, it's going to be more than fine. I get shoot, pret damn good. Just I was just too a little bit intrigued in surprise. But they I guess that little fact. Yeah, I think I'm in like the same boat. I kind of I get what's in it, but I'm not sure where we go after, after this tagtile match, like I'm assuming after like after the match, all see like the new challenge is kind of present themselves and it won't be like a kind of something. We won't be a situation where we can see WHO's challenging next or or whatever. But yeah, it should be a good match. I think all for will come out of it looking good. I mean ask her. Despite losing the BE HONESTA side, I don't think she's lost any sort of momentum. She really good and defeat and like she was really, really intelligent in the way that the matter was worked, kind of focusing on that arm. And Yeah, as I said at the beginning of the show, like my Coto is a well, she's great and it's taken...

...me a while to kind of realize that she is actually a good wrestler. And the same thing, it's one of those you're a little bit would have by the look and you kind of under estimator because like went like when I got into sittling, and I guess when you when you go into sitting as well. She trained of was the pin eater for less ago besides Rico, so she didn't get, at least always get to look as great as the others when I but it's also a little bit of a talent for a wrestler to innocence, being the one who leads the others look great and, yeah, being the one who gets the short end of the seat, the stick, acceps it fully and still manages to make the most out of it those a little bit difficult situations, I guess. Yeah, absolutely, I think the I never really saw much of my coat off and being honest, like the like my first kind of few months watching steedling, which my first show that I watch was actually this time last year, like on this day, which was the I think it was the first show after lockdown and it was the orison. I could Jumi versus ask it. Beyond the seat title main event. You see the yeah, the focus is all on Aska. That was from June. That was from June. The show you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, because that that was the ceiling close to you show I remembered quite well. Yeah, it's the the Yashiko ARASA. I remember it being a start. One of the shows was on the thirteen. I got my month's mixed up. That's my bad. If the the second announcement, which will lead US nicely into our match discussion, for the return of the old, all the old reliable formula, was a resn could Juma challenging realm is in army for the beyond the sea title. This will be their fourth singles match. They are tied at a one, one and one with a time mid draw at the seedling map in the ceiling match that they had in two thousand and sixteen, which we're watching a minute. Their first match was won by realm is. Innami in two thousand and eight, a send our girls show and a Reson I could jum I got her win a JWP show. Just over four months later, where the if I'm not mistaken, the JWP junior championship was on the line, and remember it being. I saw as one of the shows was on the thirteen. I got my months mixed up. That's my bad. If the the second announcement, which will lead US nicely into our match discussion for the return of the old, all the old reliable formula, was a resnic could UMA challenging ream is in army for the beyond the sea title. This will be their fourth singles match. They are tied at a one, one and one with a time mid draw at the ceiling map. In the ceiling match that they had in two thousand and sixteen, which we're watching a minute, their first match was won by Reem is Innami in two thousand and eight. Send our girls show and a reason I could gym. I got her win a JW of he show just over four months later. Where the if I'm not mistaken, the JWP junior championship was on the line. Yeah, as well as the princess of wrestling title, which is a pure j championships till active. So yeah, those were the two titles underline. And Yeah, Harris are retained. Leads us to, I guess, a good starting point for not only the match that will happen at the sick man of versary show where everything's all tied up and even, but also the, I guess, the third match which took place at...

...what's the show? It's from two thousand and sixteen, September, Twenty Eight, twenty nine, two thousand and sixteen. I think it's jumped up. Yeah, sling jump up, yes, yes, so, yeah, generally value. What were your thoughts on this? Consider it as your recommendation. Generally, I thought this match was sleep from what I watched of Yom's Nami since getting into seiling and training to get into some of the other older stuff, I think this was the best Reus Real Mus nammy match that I've ever watched, at the very least talking about singles, but I'll see. I think you could include tags or three ways whatever, and it's probably still the best match that I've seen. It's just so perfect to me how they managed to challenge, to channel this idea, which is great for time living drawlers, trying to prove, like the two restaurants, trying to prove that they were better than the other one, trying, really trying, to get that first win. Like you could really you could really feel the importance there and the way that this match was really hardening from the get go, as as we got into outside, outside stuff. Pretty early on, Aresa went, we got some prey nasty hits early. So yeah, everything about this match, like for the whole twenty minutes, a tree managed to channel this idea, like this idea that I just mentioned, and in that sense, like often during watching matches, I think too I ten to look at the time, just it's just to see where where the matches added here. I didn't because I was so cold into it. Death matches flew by in a way that very few matches, I feel mad, actually managed to fly by when you watch them. And like up until the referee actually announced that there was like three minutes left, I didn't I didn't know where how much time was left, and it's like yeah, it's pretty impressive. All they managed to make it fly by, and I think the fact that the match was at a twenty minutes time time limits also really added to it, because at no point did you feel like they were trying to get to gain time, which is very important to meantime in midrawals like this match would just two wrestlers trying to prove to the to the other that they that they were better, try both of them trying to get that first win, and everything they done in that sense, trying to I relate toast, all the sentiments, was pretty much picture perfect. And Yeah, like, like I said, it's probably the met the best measona Mei that I've ever matched, the ever watched, and it does make me very excited for the upcoming title match. Yeah, I mean absolutely in the same boat. Like this was a match that I didn't know existed until so we start planning this episode and it goes down over. Yeah, it was. It was very, very, very very good. Like if you can keep me invested after a head but like two minutes into the match and kind of pace it like from the like bring the drama down a little bit and then bring it back up if your head into the finishing stretch that and like have the time fly by, I think you've done a good job. Like it's like the head Puss, but caught me off God, the Broblem the outside the ring post spots would just honestly, they were sickening, but at the same time I loved it. And then,...

...yeah, you say like there was kind of the desperation with the roll ups and they kind of trying to kind of get that kind of sneaky win, as it were, like just before the the time limit, and then the kick out and the bell rings at the same time, which just it was so well put together and, honestly, probably the best match I've seen from realms in army and definitely in top ten for a recent matches that I've seen. Yeah, it's made to be one of those a reason met the matches like I get like dirt. They are probably people out there who would already knew about this matching, knew where all great it was, but I like, from the perspective that I had, and I think you'll agree on this, it's one of those are reason matches which really should be put forward more as as he chose how great or a wrestler she is and like, like, you could call her a genius in it wouldn't be an exaggeration, and I think this match is really one of those prime examples of why she's so great and why she has been one of the best Restaur up the as decade. Just so impressive. What's been done. Yeah, like, yeah, like, I think it was kind of a bold move for them to go like rather than kind of one to peachure the US in like they like one targets the Lego, Mont targets the arm and then they see it gives in first, or like that sort of dynamic, the fact that they both targets to each other's like head and neck area and they were so kind of aggressive about it, especially like the first half of the match. Very she's kind of high angle suplexes and strikes to the head and neck and just it was awful, but at the same time it's just it was so good that that Durne the German suplex from a Resa like after she tries to after she tries the Dragon suplex in, which is one of her trade macmoks and one of her trade mark moves, I'm going to get this right, which is she just tribes the Ar ment in German suplex to opponents. That one, especially to meet, really looked nasty, even in the way that Harry is itself tried to bridge and dinner and did. I really liked how the it was a mix of real kicking out and Harry's and not being quite able to older real for the count, which was it's one of those things which I reali like in terms of just slide details, and this match was filled with those little slide details that you just it just gives you that next level, yeah, level of appreciation for the match and the wrestles involved. It's at the end of the day. I think I can only say that to me, in terms of in terms of a row structure and how everything was accomplished, it might just be the perfect time. Let me draw like on the document that we have, like I I asked a question where or night was and to me it might just be because there's just there is absolute nothing wrong with this match and the result is pretty much perfect. Like it's like you wouldn't even change a results, you wouldn't change anything about this match. Yeah, it's it's basically perfect, at least from my perspective. Yeah, I think I'm not far off that kind of I evaluation of that. Like I think, yeah, like other time then it draws. I've worked. It's kind of the closing stretch especially, kind of fallen into the traffic. I'm going to hit a big movie and I'm going to go for a pain and then I'm going to kick and the kick out and then you kind of hear off that sect whatever, and then they hit another big move than they just counts down. But then here it didn't really feel like that. It kind of just felt like they were going to keep they were just thinking or in the time they met and they were just going to keep going and keep going,...

...and that's what that's what I really, really like about it. I also like the fact that, despite the various opportunities to just no sell everything, especially like the big moves, where like like say, or like a kick out one, there are so many opportunities to do that. Like I'm so glad that they didn't and they kind of just like I think that's what like, I guess fighting spirit for a like for some people, kind of boils down to. It's all like kicking out one, or there's like our no cell over like a big move or something, and like here you didn't really think it is. It's kind of just fighting through like everything and still getting up and still kind of trying some Mat your opponent, which they did, and yet the time of it, I wouldn't change anything about it. I think is probably one of the best time with drawers that you can get. It's it's one of those prime examples of like when you're trained to if you're a wrestler and you're you know you're going to have a match which is going to be a time to be joining, like you have to set up some kind of structure and everything like. It's one of the prime examples you should look forward to in my book, like it's just like, as we said, like it's everything is put together soon, nicely obvious. And obviously I you need to delevels of skill to to accomplish something like that. Obviously see. But yeah, it's really one of the prime examples, like, if your wrestle, you should look forward to whenever you are having a time in them draw like try to relate some of those things, try to get, I guess, try to get your match going without with with a consistent level of intensity, which this had, which also and with pretty much no down moment. And I think it's another thing which is really very impressive about this match is at no point, and like he would think at some point during the twenty minutes there would be a actual down moment where where the base really slows down, where it is real lace intensity. But that was none of that. There was absolutely none of that at any moment. And I guess it just Kudos to the wrestlers again for being able to chip up, to constantly keep up and for those twenty minutes with the same level of intensity, because, like not that many would actually be able to do this and have such a great match. Like, like, looking back on it, this is probably when, like, for for the year two thousand and sixteen, this is probably a much of the your contender, if for being honest, yeah, like, I'm pretty much for agreement. They're like, I think as well, the fact that they kind of, I think towards the end, like they were kind of points where they could have taken it into kind of like that the melodramatic territory where it's kind of very inn face, it's very kind of everything is done and it's kind of, yeas I say, like really in your face about it. But here, like, I don't think they kind of paid attention to the time them. It draw like as such. They could just kind of went out to just be each other. Like you could tell desperation was kicking in, but it wasn't like, yeah, as you said, it wasn't exactly ated like in some matches where you just have these these are shot faces, this like every you don't have all these these extra things that make that make drama essentially, or I guess like either make or kind of ruined drama because they're just so much extra things going on here. You just had none of it, none of this. Besides, I guess roll ups more or less creative. So at that too, like, especially from a Resa like, it was just it was intensity, drama. What's the word I'm looking for? I don't know what I wanted...

...the word I'm street trying to try to use here, but yet it was intensity and drama. Not Translate. I guess I'm going to. I'm going to see translated, but it's not to it's sort the word I'm looking for actually like translated into in ring pro wrestling action. It was nothing else but that. And they did like, yeah, picture perfectly. Yeah, like I'm trying to think of like is there anything else to add that we haven't already I think we've kind of discussed how well put together it was, like how the pacing, the fact that they kind of they managed to go from such a kind of almost break next speed, starting like straight out the blocks, and then kind of like kind of brought it down just a little bit, like in terms of kind of the intensity in and as they kind of approach, as they got closer, one closer, you kind of picked it up again and it rose and rose and Rosen let there was kind of a I don't know, those kind of that reaction when the twenty minutes came' is like Oh, like, they've done all this and they kind of really picked it up and now we're not going to get a winner. Like I think that's kind of I was. I was disappointed when the bell rang, like even though I knew that it was that was going to happen, like I just wanted them to wrestle more. It's one of those matches like you're you genuinely fight. Feel like the fight forever chant you know, it's one of those you're just so much caught into it and everything is so great, like you like they could have just gone like this, I feel like for another twenty minutes and it would still have been great. You know, it's one of those and another thing I wanted to point out is realms and Emmy's Kamaka Tammy, which most people probably know as a gianic undervice. I loved that she did the spot, which usually is how resu spot, and I resurs butt with the with roll ups, like she is running you up and then she's going to roll you around the ring for a little while only to then keep you for the roll up and try to get the win that way. And here a real did the same thing while a playing to hold, and I thought there was something pretty nice like just, I guess, sudden sort of taking something out of your opponent spook and then addapt ad up dating in into your own, which it's one of the things that when of those again like Leal Dtas, that reappreciate. Yeah, like it when it's kind of like the smaller kind of tropes that some people might not pick up on. Like sometimes it does get a bit like it gets a bit boring when like the only thing that's ever stolen is like a finisher or like a signature moon. It's like all the the disrespect there and it's like will. Surely there are other things that you can try and do. Like I think it's kind of the more subtle kind of like tone down things like that, kind of enjoy more when they're taken and you kind of realize, I'll, like, they've done that for a reason or like. It wasn't like a jet, it wasn't like a German souplex or like anything like any of the kind of moves that you associate with Theresa or like vice versa, with a realm as an army, like. I think it was just nice and they didn't take the mick with it. was just a straight up wrestling match then, like a really good battle of one atmanshift, rather than like a boring we're not boring, but like melodramatic, kind of in your face constantly, like over the top nonsense stuff that they could have been, especially like in those last kind of free four minutes now, I'd like. Honestly, it's literally just a case of we can talk about this like all day and I don't think we'd cover everything. Like I think it's just a case of go and like for our listens out there, go and watch it because, like it's great. There will be a link to it in the the episode description. I'm thinking of putting together like a little spreadsheet of kind of all the matches that we recommend and kind of putting out there. So if anybody that listens to the show is interested in that, then please let us know at the sea cast. But yeah, like, I think this is pretty much a good place to leave off. So, voll, to close the show. Where can people find you on the Internet? Yeah, you can fight. You...

...can find me at at mending yours fell on twitter, as well as at Beldock Pureu, which is where I've writ told my articles. So yeah, that's pretty much where you can find me. On the on the DALWOODS has, some people would say yes, so I know there's a certain piece coming up from you soon. So yeah, we're following VAL talks bureau. As for me, you can follow me on twitter at Octopus hold underscore, which I must say, is a much easier user name to read out on the show as a opposed to my old one. You can follow near falls media, which this podcast is associated with, I guess, at near Falls Media and, as I mentioned earlier, follow this show at the sea casts. Send in your questions and your match recommendation choose in the Hashtag the sea cast. And Yeah, hopefully this has been a fun episode for everyone to listen to and we will see you next week. See you next weed. Goodbye.

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