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Episode · 1 year ago

Beyond the SEA Cast Episode 7 - The Catch-Up

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Beyond the SEA cast is BACK! In this episode, Conrad and Val talk everything that has happened in the world of SEAd in the past 3 months or so - the rise of Las Fresa de Egoistas, ASUKA's run on top, the collapse of Citrus Wind and more! They give a recap of the big matches from the recent run of shows, before looking ahead to Nanae Takahashi's 25th Anniversary produce show on July 11th, which features Ryo Mizunami vs ASUKA and Arisa Nakajima vs Nanae Takahashi in the semi-main and main events respectively.

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Hell, Ladies and Gentlemen, and welcome to the seventh episode of the beyond the sea cast. I'm valid as always. I am joined by my photo cohost, Conrad. How, Conrad, are you doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been quite a while since, if I recall correctly, since April and the and and the episode where we review the Aris Nika Gyma produced show. If I recall correctly, that's the last one we did. So yeah, it's been quite a while. Personally, I'm good. So we've got a whole bunch of stuff to talk about since there's been, I believe, something like five shows that since last episode. We're not going to dive into each show in individually. We've got some bullet points to tackle for today's episode. I suggest we get into it. We get into team into things right away. First of all, just having a quick look back on to Dojo shows that happened. If I recall correctly, they happend in May. Let's see, one actually happen late April and second we happened in May, those two shows, with the first one having the the beyond the sea tag team tag team titles match between a recent ECKAGYMAN and I Takashi Facing Onorihana and Rico Kawata. The main thing that I get from these two shows, and mainly due to this match, but not, but not only, because there's been a lot, a lot, bunch of them, of other stuff going on during those two shows. They ceiling kind of make the most out of a difficulty tuation given at the time. I think they were supposed to turn I'm not sure if it's co working that they were supposed to run or if it was another venue, but they were impacted by the the state of emergency that was applicate applicated again in Japan, so they had to ceiling it to fall back into using their own Dojo for for the shows, which, as you as we could tell, wasn't quite the best on requirement for to run wrestling shows. But they did manage to get to do something right well with it and read. The main thing that we can get out of these shows that the younger generation can to shine, as we could. We got to see Rico Kawata, know Noriana, having a title match. We saw Rico Kaiju having bits more of opportunities. Notably, I can think of the I misses am a match from the first of the two to Joel shows. And speaking of a Mrs Some Roan Coqua Ju we sawdom. We also saw them go against our Yumikoloti rea and really Yamschida. So you've had kind of this putting more spot light and under younger wrestlers are under rust, which I think was something not only good but whether important. If you've got you, you've got any starts to get to get on this topic? Yeah, absolutely, and I think that I really like the fact that they went with the Dojo shows. Like I think it's kind of inadvertently, kind of one of the better things to happen, especially with the kind of the tag match, that the tag title match on April Twenty Six, which actually really watched just before we started really and recording this, and it was I think it was kind of more fit in environment in a way to kind of have Hannah especially kind of Pimpete for a title in that venue, is opposed to say like carcan or maybe like a Shinjuku face or Shinky Bay first ring or something. But yeah, I think I'm yeah, the best out of a bad situation, I think is the best way to put it. And I think even even before the state of emergency. I think Yoshiko obviously having to walk away from wrestling for a little bit because of injury. That's kind of the start of the kind of not a bad situation, but I think not the best, not the most ideal situation. I'm for it kind of through for a bit of a spanner into the works in terms of the the book and going forward. But yeah, I think sailing of done absolutely tremendously with how well they've handled like the rope blocks, with the state of emergency and kind of like the lower attendance or an't the arena shows and the appose of arguably the top, the top talent for the past few months. Yeah, absolutely, you spoke of you, you you spoke of your Chico. So obviously losing one, if not your main player at the moment was a big blow.

Day. Managed to like through this day, they started to elevate ask a little bit more giving already beyond the sea singles title, we've had less march, well, the match with Rinay Machea. Since then it's been a it's been a bit of an interesting time. We've seen, how do I put this? We've seen a bit of a I guess a bit of a feud between the so far, the remnants of less Frizzady go east, has Aka, Ma Aska and Makoto facing UMI Kohota door. There's been like thus two three months. There's been a lot of interactions between them. Nay Machete also was in was involved. Until that we saw I think that was I think that pretty much became official after the May twenty sincs show, which saw we're going to talk about this a little later, but this the title match between last rous of the Goyastas and citrus win for the tag belts. But we've seen Yumikotel be being a bigger part of what ceiling we're training to do, helping elvate the the younger the younger talents, and she eventually joined citrus wind. So that was that was a little bit surprising, but no kind of a move that you're kind of kind of accept I guess. And all of that. Of those those interactions I we got to see during starting during the Dojo shows, and that continue down. That led to the tow Ye, the too big. Well, well, the the to June shows where we had the captain false match between citrus wind and last Rosada Goyastas, and then we had then we then we had the other June show with the two tight we too title matches. What I would like to then go with is well, talking about let just Ley just get into the the title matches that we got to see. First of all, the first of two tag team title matches that we got, as Kine Makotoo fee see facing the the then champions Irisenic, a gymain and a Takashi, on May twenty six, less ideguist as a true one. That Matchu we had new champions. Essentially, now we've got asked her ruling the world. Oh, when it comes to ceiling like she is pretty much the top committed into in the company at the moment. It's pretty much and disputed. First of all, what are your thoughts on that specific tail match? It's something I just watching this I kind of fell into a bit of a wrestling slump really kind of struggle to keep up, but yeah, it was absolutely fantastic. It's very rare that I'd kind of think of my Cota especially as kind of an MVP performer, especially considering the free the free people she was sharing the ring with. But yeah, everything in this match with was really great. It was really enjoyable tag match with some really begot. Some of them kind of not misdelivered as such, but I think there was kind of little bit of an issue when Askar did the the tope over the top rope and kind of it looked like they landed on their back and that it just kind of looked at nasty. But yeah, it was. It was really, really good. Yeah, I don't think you could ask for much else in a tag title change. Of I think probably at the moment this is my second favorite tag match of the year, only behind the astronauts versus Okabayashi and Nakano a from bjw one in March. I think. Yeah, this that was absolutely fantastic and really enjoyable and highly recommended if any any of our listeners haven't watched it. Yeah, into the Great Tag match. Were you surprised by, I do tail change in a way, yes, because I was kind of expecting them to kind of keep on with the citrus winding and kind of let ask a kind of run the singles division a bit more. But I think kind of having that kind of complete last egos dominance is a good is really good thing. I think the fact that they kind of they had that kind of extra exposure with the Ashiko, as it were, like from the stardom show, and I think the kind of the bad taste that was in some people's mouth was kind of...

...gone now because she's back. While she was back and she rustled my you and it was like a good match. Know went well as I think turn your attention to ask her who, obviously that was involved in the kind of picked up a much bigger fan base. Will kind of picked up a fair few fans from the a tob tournament earlier in the year. I think it's a smart move so get more eyes on the products, especially, as I say, with that influence of new funds. But yeah, I think I quite like it and I think when, if she could just return, it still kind of sets up that nice little kind of feud, as we discussed like in a previous episode, with obviously Yoshika been a tag specialist and reallyinquishing the single title. I think it was Sol up and as little dynamic whenever it does happen and it opens a lot of possibilities for all the present, I suppose. M Yeah, definitely you've got now we've got freema chain new dominant tag team in as Kind Makoto, you don't really know what the moment, where things are you going to go? Well, well, you can't. You kind of know, but I guess things are a little bit blurry up until Yoshiko re returns, even though we're going to we're going to get to talk about this to the later. The upcoming tulight eleven show kind of gives you an idea where two things should be going, at least for like the end of the summer. So we're going to have to see where this goes, but we're going to come back to this later. The next thing I wanted to go I want to go over, is talking about the to June shows, which I think were the it's. That's essentially where the biggest thing really happened. Really with how do I put this? Let's Fresada goes to us not just surviving as they as they kept well as simply the they they survived the possibility of some of seeing the durn faction, the being disband being disbanded, and they added new members such as I am is, I'm Ryan an a Kunakamori, which that led to the beg captain false match and as well as it led to a whole bunch of the other Nice matches which I know you've talked about. You you've talked to a little bit about on twitter, which a seemingly based on the Twiz. I've ridge seemingly enjoyed seeing how the the two big factions kind of take kind of to two completely different way trajectories. As as Fros Adagis TAT now, looks like the not just the biggest thing in ceiling but kind of the bigger things in maybe maybe in all josh wrestling really at the moment, comparing to citrus wind abruptly handling ending following the I believe it was following the Real Missunami vers Na Takashi number one contenders contender match. I think that's where a recent ECAJIMA told Nan made at. Essentially, they would through. What what I'm gonna ask you now is, what did you think about those? Those matches for salt to Captain Fall, and then we can look back under to tail matches from urge and seven peas. Yeah, so I think the captain's format it was it was chaotic, but kind of a good way. I guess it kind of helped kind of show them a bit of blood and bad blood between the two was rather than like a clean cut wrestling match where, like all the tag rols are obeyed and there's no interference and like I think it would think it kind of played to what kind of aided the match more than it hurt it. And Yeah, obviously, like there were kind of a few live hiccups. I guess. I think it was a Rico Karahata when she first came in and she tried the like the springboards and she kind of slipped a little bit on the first attempt but then kind of made it for on the second. But yeah, all in all, I really a really enjoyed it. I didn't think I would, so I'm I'm not really a fan of kind of the delayed entry. I'd rather just have like the kind of everybody in the ring or everybody on the Apron at the same time. But yeahs I enjoyed it and I also enjoyed, which I'm sure we'll talk about in a minute, the the finished the tag title uch from the day after, which was a kind of essentially was a going copy of the finish from the captain's formatch the night before, which was really neat that. Yeah, thirty five minutes was a bit daunting, but yeah, really in drugle stuff. My cooking out...

...first was a good move. I would have preferred and now I take a hash. She beat an Oscar to kind of win the match, but you know, I'm not I'm not even going to complain about that. But yeah, all in all, those good stuff. Yeah, pretty good. So I understand you win with them the idea of Nana, but be pinning as a car in that captain falls match. Now, obviously they were trying to set up the tag tables match for the show after words. So having a hotel coming up, coming off as well, done the person with the with the momentum coming up. That match makes sense. You've been you've roller up for essentially two months at this point, and like it make it made sense to at some point having her feature in in more than just matches against the younger talents, and given she was already doing you a bit of other favor by yellowing Rico Kawata to be to be feature on those shows. Because if, in case, nobody key, some somebody's as unaware of this. Umi Cotel is running a promotion, Gal Te Hearts, which Rico Kawata also is a part of. So it's those kind of arrangements between between different promotions. So yeah, that Lt. that'll led up to the first defense of leastrosdy go east us against RNA Yamashita and Yumi quota the day, the day after the Phoenish as you said, was pretty neat. The match itself each I wouldn't say it was some kind of I wouldn't think it was like dad great, like you like. I've definitely seen. I Definitely Watch, I should say, much better beyond the Sea Tac tic TAC title matches. But he had something cool to it. You knew that Aska and Outa had some a's, some Nice interactions you had. They played nicely to the to the these day, and that that every party is would feeling we're filling towards each other. So ultimately the match was cool, good first defense for the champions. Do you have anything else to hear about that match that I may have missed out? Not Really, I think. Yeah, if you say that's been better beyond the matches in the last year, but I think this did what it needed to do. I think it kind of set settled, if like the kind of the score from the previous nights main event. I think I enjoyed the match more once Rinny Ama. She's so got involved. Been just her and ask her are always kind of good together. Whenever I've seen in the midlight singles or tag, they've always been good. But yeah, this was it was wanted to be and I think the leading the blow away tag matches will come later on in the rain. Against who? I'm not quite sure. But yeah, there's I think there's a lot of options, a lot of roads that they could take with this. Last egoes tag, tile or rain and askers beyond the sea, tile, rain in general. Yeah, next up the we're going to we're going to talk about a little bit up of the ceiling. Beyond the sea singles tale number one, control the ship match between Real Mus Dammy, the returning real Musunami. Which who came back? I believe she came back at did she did she made a return on May twenty six, or did she make your did she made a return on June? I believe she makes a meal. She made the a return me when when leas Sego actually won the take bilts. I believe this. That's when she confronted as kind and seeing that she wanted to challenge and didn't end into the number one contender, medgicould nanny was a true set up. What did you think of that match, that number number one contender ship match? Yeah, I think it's good, enjoyable. I like the kind of the structure of it, whether we've kind of Nano working on top for the most part, like at the start, and then kind of realm is an army kind of eventually, kind of slowly but surely, working a way back and eventually picking up the win. I was I really like the the topic change at the start of the match, but I think that's kind of the key to me enjoying a wrestling match. Like, if you show me two people like slapping each other in the chest or hitting each other in the face, that I'm gonna like it. So yeah, this was a good made...

Rhona Mizing im look strong. Midnight's I a Hashy, kind of not looked too bad in defeat, which is kind of I think that's what you need. Really kind of putting over the challenger will kind of making someone who has a marquee match coming up look still look like a threat and with some moments, and so yeah, it was. It's the good again and overall, a good man into yeah, you're pretty much. Yeah, you pretty much needed to establishmsing army without training to diminish and I is and they either. And that was gone pretty well. So now now which we have is D July eleven showcoming up, which now he's going to be in just six days. First I suggest we talked about the main event of this show, which is going to be I recently Kajima Everson any taka. She didir fifth match as part of their, I guess, seedling rivalry, one of them. Getting to ask you here is essentially what are your expectations? Are Your thoughts on this match? Pretty much, I think it will be. From a limbring standpoint, I think it'd be a good match, because it always is in every kind of the singles attacks that I've seen, Nana and a reset in they've always been good, good at worst and much of the year candidate the best. My only real concern is the fact that they going back to it. I know it's been like two years, but the fact that they've kind of after the hair versus hast it's stipulation, which is kind of quite a weighty stipulation, to say the least. I'm trying to follow that match up, but I think kind of having that time and letting the story development being tag team partners and now kind of splitting up, like the whole split thing was weird, like you could you team with someone for six months and then you you actually come to the realization that, oh, I actually like you. It was a bit weird, but I'm not going to complain. Yeah, it's hard to recomplain when you actually get that kind of match and to be out, to be honest, it feels more natural, I think, to have a resign and I on opposite sides instead of them team up. It's like, I'm not sure if I can really find much of a comparison, but it's like taking something like I don't know if you remember those very rare times where you would see in wwe the likes of John Cina Randy Orton teaming up like that one time when the where they teamed up against the whole row roster in like some kind of conflict nature, whatever it was. It kind of his like that, like in the sense that these are two people that you ultimately they're always going to fall back being against one another and at the end of the day, I guess the whole citrus win story kind of was all about that. Besides trying to elevate on a rerun on Ahana and Ricokawa hot a little bit more, it kind of was about that also. Ultimately, like the match should be pretty good. I think we can both agree that we're expecting a research a win this, given she given a well, Nan I hasn't really much to do. She doesn't really have much to gain either from winning this when when we've got a RESA and pretty much free of it, are of anything. Now we've got a gas champions of there. There's a clear road to that title match. So yeah, pretty sure we can both agree that. Yeah, I realize winning that match. Yeah, I think it fits strange for races doesn't win because, like I think, I think we can kind of agree that the winner of this will likely go on and challenge the winner of the the Oscar a ream is an army title match. So if they're planning on having Nane I win, then well, if none I want to have herself would it doesn't really make much sense when you could have just have she could have just let the title match would ask a happen and then have a race, a challenge after. But yeah, I'm kind of a did an a race of its or and I think the ascar is a pretty much pretty much a year on. I think it is a year on. Yeah, is a better road to take. I think. Yeah, it seems like the real, the only logical roles at this point. Speaking of as we spoke a bit more of as a can redo Miss Nami. Let's move on to that. And so we've got another bit, another big seedling show, another bigger beyond the sea singles title match, and for I have even couldn't did all the instances were that happened, but it's at least the second time this year when this has happened, where beyond the sea singles title match is not made of ending the show.

The last time, if I recall correctly, was the US kind arena, Yamashita take tail match for the vacand titled Dead Didn't not made of industrial either. So essentially, what do we think of this, of this kind of trend, and do we think this is something that could go wrong? Could be could be bad for the promotional other kind of stuff, like whatever you thought me be underut like, just let me hear it, okay. Yeah, so I think it's kind of I don't see it going wrong, not at all. But, like I was gonna say, yeah, I know we had a bit of a discussion about it on twitter the the day about kind of weather. This is kind of a token run of sorts for Rio before she heads off to the US and back to way debut full time. Or whether it be an asker kind of retaining situation. I think I prefer ask her to retain. I'm not really a fan of like the token run. I think I think it is kind of a sooner rather than later thing with missing army heading back to the US. And Yeah, I think I think Oscar retaining would be the right move. But, like, I don't know, I think I think it's still quite open. But yeah, I think personally I prefer ask her. I think there's a lot more you could do with her reign compared to like something as an army and having that right, that run with the belt, when there's still a lot of moments and head with the asker. What goes domination of state link I think you can get a good few more few more months at least out, if not taking it to the end of two thousand and twenty one. Yeah, you pretty much sum up mytels as well. To me, do pretty much no way that real measing me actually wins. As you said, like she it's a matter of time. And since she goes back to aw, you've just set up as cary as this well as the top dog in side Ligan the moment. So you just don't expect the rain to end right now like she's. She's been on fire all year. You don't have your Shiko, so you need some so you need someone else to not really carry the company but kind of bea done, the bird, the person, the person at the top of the food chain pretty much, and ask has been just that for like for the last two to three months. As for the DA match itself, not main even thing. I don't think it's much of an issue right now because Iris Everson and I is like such a big historical rivalry at this point it's hard to it's hard to see this match not main even think any show ton to be honest. Now I do hope that this is not a trend that keeps going too much, because at some point, I think you do, you do need your top belt back on the main event and I do think that's going to happen as soon as as ca defense or that next which, as we expect, should probably be against the reason the Kajima. So that it like if that match is not the main the the main event of the next of the next big seedling show, like I just don't understand anything interesting anymore. So that would be pretty weird. So yeah, it's not it's not a really big issue right now, but hopefully that's something that last, because you don't really need to well, not that you don't really need but well, no, you don't need to put your your your younger talents, your top champion in in a bit of a more difficult situation. That could already be so and, like I said, at some point you just need your top belt, in your tone champion back in the main event. So hopefully this is the lasting sid instance of of a beyond the seat title match not actually being the main event of a seiling show. quickly, before talking about our next and I guess probably last, really a big point for this episode. The rest of the card for this July events show will be Humi Kohota and maco so teaming up against Radna Yamashta Rico Kawahatta, which, when I saw that match, I was really it kind of reminded me of the of the what was it? It was Runa Yamashita and Laurihana teming up against as kind of NNA Takashi. It kind of reminds me of that in the sense that you have, on one side you have this veteran and and...

...rookie kind of team, which is not which shouldn't really be too dysfunctional, like you don't really explain to it. You don't really expect much tension to come from this side, and on the other side you have two people who pretty much just hate each other. It gave faide. So I think this is a match which, it's may not be like that great of a match, but it should be an interesting watch. And then we have Rico Kai Ju and I a Missasamura of lastres adigistas facing Honorary Hannah and, you know, Missumori of ghetto move. So that again should be an interesting match featuring a bunch of your talents and another well new kind of well, another new wrestler being introduced to seed. So that should be nice personally, and I haven't watched much of ghetto move so this is going to be pretty much an introduction to Missumori for me. So I'm quite interested to see to see how that goes. What are you what are your thoughts or deep on these two other matches, for it is July elevent show. Okay, yeah, so I think it's kind of yeah, the Yumikohata and Makoto Rinny, I'm she's a riccat attack match. Yeah, I do see this kind of being a repeat of the the tag match that you mentioned from earlier this year, where it's kind of I think you're I think it's mainly to kind of perhaps have that Yum Yumikohuta and Rico Koahata kind of interaction, like clothes and such. Maybe take it to a time of a draw and then you kind of make more of a star of Rico Khatta, kind of like continuing that elevation that we've kind of seen like throughout the year. I think that'd be like the right move to take. I'm in the same virtue I have. I don't want to get a move what? Haven't watched it at all. So, yeah, this will be a nice little introduction for for me to UN Miss Amori, I think as well. Just going back to the beyond the sea singles match, not main event in I think this show, if I'm not mistaken, is the Nice Akahashi like kind of it's a twenty five anniversary or something, as it's one of them. Yeah, so it's a produce show. So I think that's kind of partly the reason for it. Yeah, the I think you'd rather have the person who show its like who's a shows about main event in then I think, as as you said, the weight of the kind of the significance of the Aresa Nana rivalry, I think kind of I think it would be a bit damaging to ask and room is an army kind of having to follow it up, because I think the expectations for that match will be higher. Yeah, I think it kind of it'd be a bit underwhelming if was have the kind of amazing like match of the candidate, a recent and I match that we're kind of all expected, and then kind of having the Aska Room is an army match, which will kind of leave a bad taste of people must if it doesn't deliver or kind of exceed what we saw in the semimin event. So I think it's kind of betters. I have it like that and I don't see the trend kind of continuing. I think we'll go back to the Aska main events and all the future shows. Yeah, so that that's we're pretty much NIGRIMM in there. How or less, point for this episode is about. So over the last prettmature tree months, essentially since we've learned that your school would be out for a while and that took a k to beyond the s singles table seedlings, over all leanscape has changed quite drastically. I've talked to a little bit about it on twitter, but I really wanted to wait for US threecord this episode to read dive into this. I'm really impressed by the way day, by the way, ceiling as kind of reshaped since Yoshiko has been has been absent. We've got some really nice stories to to follow, whether it was the rise of less firs, the goistance as cut itself herself, cementing yourself as a top star and top champion. We've seen the younger talents between being elevated more we've seen, well, citrus wind becoming a becoming more of a thing and then pretty much blowing blowing up like sort of a in terms of in terms of faction, factions. How do I, how do I formulate die, formulate that span of life? It in terms of special of affection span of life. You it kind of felt like the faction started, took off and then kind of exploded as they took off. So it's it's kind of it's kind of weird. When the meantime, it made for an interesting things to...

...follow, especially alongside last rows of they go is to us kind of re emerging after pretty much being dead for basically more than a year, since since I resizessentially was put it out of the faction, but by US last year. So we've seen a whole bunch of different things happened. Personally, I find it amazing. I like to think you would agree, but I, like you, spend on on your thids on this lynds keep changing spinoff time for seeling. I think. Yeah, the rise of last egoes was kind of I don't think it's something that would have happened if, if Yoshiko haven't been injured, which kind of the best, as we've mentioned, the start the episode kind of like the best out of like unfortunately, dances thought that that ad revived this faction like in the space of three months from March to now, is really quite amazing. I think citrus wind was kind of always going to be one of those things that kind of didn't last too long and would kind of eventually when it fell apart, it would fall apart quite quite quickly. Wouldn't be like a slow burn thing where you kind of see the seeds of kind of dissension like growing and kind of tearing up the faction from the inside. I think it's going to be very kind of quick kill it off and then we have the big singles match which which we are having. And Yeah, I think they handled the booking of it perfectly. It didn't kind of become stale. The kind of the choice to have to kind of dissolve your she goes faction and have IMSS Amora come into the last egoes was a good choice. I think it's nice to see her as kind of not the kind of the rest of that we see into it, of you, who's kind of like very, kind of like clean cut, mostly, mostly babyface. I think it's kind of this is a nice change of changes her. Obviously, Rica Kaiju is probably my favorite rookie at the minute. She's a very good wrestler. Beast kids, more like best kid am I right now? I've seen your jokes. They're but but yeah, I think how well this is. This is gone for seedling when it could have gone so, so badly wrong, like they could have kind of crashed and burned with the kind of like the forced empty arenas and kind of, as I say, the absence of Yoshiko and the citious wind stuff. They could have. It could have gone very badly, but it's gone. I think littleheader, kind of like the June six hundred seventeen kind of shows kind of running into one another, was a good move. I don't think it would have had the same impact and effect as it did save if they'd been safe. We had the sixteen show when it happened and then like the seventeen show like a month later, after the Nana show, where, like the he they said that, like the the recent and I singles match, but it's more of black an exhibition thing. I'm kind of having them now and obviously having asked her go from like humiliation, having joined citrus winds, to kind of on top with her faction, coming out looking better after being defeated, and get like the only one left standing. I think that's really kind of yeah, it's been such an excellent few months. Ea Ling, and hopefully the carry on that momentum for, yeah, the rest of the year. So absolutely, you've said. You've said it pretty well, essentially essentially putting all my thoughts in just a few words by saying that this has been a great a great time span for seiling and the way they exploited everything you talked about. I am SES amurrub being essentially shifting size, going from your SICO's factions, which is which now doesn't really exist, and going to rest for as day oysters. That's a move which I did not expect. But when it can, when you kind of started to see it was one of those things that we started, that we started to see during the the the Joe Shows. When, when was it? I think it was during a post match when Rico Kaijuw was was attacking or was stagged by a Umico hotel like there was a brawl and and I am summer came to say, it came to Kinto savored. That was quite interesting. And now you have, when you look at that, LAS fresid Goystas. Now it's pretty interesting to see how the fection looks like. You have the clear cut top figuring. ASCAR you've got is you've got Makoto and Nakamori being kind of in the middle, like your two veterans that you can have pretty much in every spot, like, whether it's alongside USCA, whether it's in singles or the ORCs wrestling outside the younger...

...talents like you can have these two feature being featured pretty much everywhere and they should be good. And now you have a actual partner for Marico in. I am a like this team. I don't really know how the ceilings tag division is going to look like, I in just six months from now, but this is a team I could very well, I could very well see ending up holding the tag belts together like they already seem like like they've been together as a pairing for like just a mere few weeks and it feels like they're a perfect pairing already like to see. You see them, you see them at a breasts conference for a matching, matching shirts and stuff. They seem like, yeah, this perfect lil pairing of a too young wrestlers, obvioucy I am is quite it's quite more experience. So she's also going to be able to help reco progress and it feels like a perfect match. Really. Yeah, I think they are. After you right. I think this kind of this partnership is gone to it's going to help recorcrd you so much, in terms of her development as a wrestler. I think kind of having it staged out run make them a little bit later on when when Ricko Kaiju is kind of develop more into the kind of like away from rookie status, which I think she's close to kind of getting redudant as a Henorrehanna at the minute, they kind of gradually progressing into like credible, what kind of little semi credible challenges and yeah, I think put in I am a with a an obviously heading for the tactile which Im's help with, for whether it's an ACA huma back in two thousand and eighteen, for two thousand and eighteen, two thousand and nineteen. Yeah, I think it's really good partnership in a really good move to put them together and and have I am a as part. As the last e goes, I think the whole structure, as you say, works out perfectly for that group. Kind of have an asker is kind of like that young charismatic leader, your two veterans in Nakamori a Makoto, you're like rookies, or like your younger, more inexperienced talent in IMS or some more Enrico Kaiji. It's kind of like a perfect hierarchy and I think, I think it's exactly how a faction should be run, where you kind of have everything you need and it's kind of you can have years worth of kind of use out of it, so you can keep bringing in veterans and stuff and yeah, it just works that. I'm on to see what they do now that they've got, for that momentum from the recent shows. Is it going to be very interesting to see how things develop in terms of which which sort of a group ends up emerging. Probably once your she coo actually returns, we short of alliance tends to emerge once this. At some points you expect some kind of alliance to form and actually change less it go supremacy, whether it's in the end of the year. Of like, whenever it happens, it's going to be interesting to see who gets peaked. I mean we can we can have some idea of how, of WHO and how things can can shape up. We can discuss we can have a whole discussion about this, but I'm just very interested to see how we how we end up leading to whatever alliance end up being. The main tread to less it go supremacy. We're going most likely to see that develop over the next few months and yeah, I'm very interested to say that like this is after being in almost not not that it was too difficult of a situation, but you can have been. You could have been, like we said this before, we could have been in a pretty difficult situation if things weren't hand old hasn't been handled as well as they've been. And now you're looking at day second half of the year, which should be very, very interesting for settling whether, like and pretty much on every aspect of the card, like where it is from the main, whether it's for the main events, where it's for the tag titles, whether this is for the end, whereas for the younger talents or even or even the more I guess the more the more fun stuff and realizing, and I just realize that there was one much that I forgot to talk about for the July eleven show, because then I Takashi is not going to be wrestling just one match on that show. She's also going to be wrestling alongside I. I forgot the name. I think it's more in...

...a Canish, but I'm going to verify. I'm going to check that right away. Against next kitaio making a her hingering return and Amy Sakura, so that's going to be happening to on the and Nana Takahi produce anniversary shoe of sorts. Let's see, let's see, if I'm trying to see on the ceiling twitter, if I can get the names right. Yes, right there, yeah, Indian, Mumo Nakanishi. Yeah, and there will be accompanied by Kumiko. Myh I don't think. I don't think that's the right name. That more that probably is twitter just translating wrongly, but anyway, that's the other measure for green to have. That should be a pretty nice mashally it's more of a celebrated ratory kind of manage, but it's going to be nice to see. But Ami Sakura Net kit are wresting a little bit, so that should be nice. Is there anything else that you wanted to add before we move on to the closing board of the show? Yeah, I was just going to say, yeah, I think that tag match is something seven minutes searing. That's like the time limit or something along those lines. But Yeah, actually say we nice seem Sakra and Nasu Kitio wrestling on the seedling show. And Yeah, just before we move on as well, because of kind of mean toasted for a while now, that kind of citrus winds is done. Like after the ARASA and I singles match. What do you think both women go? Do you think they kind of you think are is a kind of starts around group. You think like she kind of stays as kind of like this Badass, kind of almost here? Are there for like the cool sweena kind of Badass, kick you in the head kind of wrestler? Well, no, I kind of remains as kind of I guess that the facto baby face in the company, which, yeah, like where do you think both go after the single match on the eleven? I think for in a Nay, she is going to be pretty much alone up until you shico returns. I think that's essentially a we. I think we're going to lean towards your Shiko and teaming together. That's the I think that's where we're going to lean by the end of the year, or at least by the time your she can returns and and ends up being featured in the main programs. As for our recite, much more interesting because you don't really quite know. Like she could be alone, she could keep tagging with with tooker Safishimoto again, as that's where she kind of defaulted to once she was kicked out over let's a go last year. So I think for a few months, depending on where on when you she co actually returns, both of them are going to be alone for a while. Probably I would expect Nana to team, to keep to make up with no Rihanna, Rico Kawata and and the end the young girls. And as for a reason, she's going to I think she's going to be timming with the freelancers and mostly going to be alone. And then, honestly, for a reason it's pretty interesting because you you just don't buy her going back to let's a go at this point. Like it just wouldn't remake sense. Yet you don't also see her making girl. I don't really see her making her own faction again, like, and especially like. Who Do you like? It's not free, it's not really. I guess it's more so who do you put in an inner her reslid detection right now? And I just have no clue you would put so like. I think it just better by default, to keep her by yourself for a while and just for all wizard for a role with it for how however long that needs to be the case. So we are probably up until the end of the year at least, whenever your shool reachings are going to have to two of them being being so doing solo stuff and being under own. I think that's going to be I think that's gone on. Yeah, it's going to say. I think it'd be quite cool to kind of see, obviously the Catta Foodimoto is currently doing ice rib and things as the Ice Infinity Champi, and I think it'd be quite cool to kind of once, once she's lost the belt, to kind of come back and kind of find come back to seedling and kind of find Theresa in kind of like this very violent, very dark state and kind of slowly but surely, kind of bring it back to kind of best friends, kind of the best the best friends level Aresa that we kind of thought was telling the lot aware, so happy and kind of smiles for the most part, and then all that, what with the...

...colorful gear, and then like still doing like the usual arasa stuff that makes the so great. I think that kind of be a good thing to do. And Yeah, yeah, I mix. I say what happens? We both it's pretty. It's pretty. It's pretty interesting to see because we don't, we didn't really have that much of a situation like that before. Like we're essentially the two main ceiling figures being kind of out of the looper when it comes to the tiles and the main programs. Like they're going to be in in a big match together and essentially by maybe August, September, depending on obviously Yushka's return and whatever is planned, they don't really have much to do and we all the focus being on Aska at the moment. They kind of it kind of feels like they're going both of them are going to be sideline for a while, which I think is a good thing, to be honest. Like you we've had a lot of a reason and I on the spotlight for us two, three, even four years, and I think we're at a time where you really need to have someone, someone new besides Yoshiko, to really step up, and that's the disc the direction that we're taking with us here right now. So so, yeah, we're in a great spot and interesting situation and as we as we've said for the for the past few minutes, it's going to be an interesting time and really just a very exciting months ahead pretty much. And unless you had anything, unless you didn't, you after had I should say. I guess we can close this episode and I don't really have anything to out of it's been the connect is good and kind of a good kind of catch up for those they need it for the sevening products. That, yeah, I think the good kind of return episode. I guess. First to kind of getting started again with the usual formula next week. Yeah, speaker of the usual formula, you can send us both questions and matricommendations at the ACTTAG. The seed cast will be taking any recommendation, any question in ser them in next week's episode. So your usual format with the met recommendation should be coming back next week more info on July eleven show. This show should once again be streamed on ceiling likecom for those, for those who should, who want to watch live and catch up and help setling by help sending financially until the until until then. See See you everyone, see well, see you next week. This was well, this was kind of around. Have a good day or good night everyone,.

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