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Episode 2 · 1 year ago

Episode 2 - Get A Dream Tag Tournament & Yamashita vs ASUKA preview/rundown

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Albeit with significant audio issues, Conrad and Val run down SEAdLINNNG Grow Together, offering their predictions for the tournament and thoughts on the field. They then preview the upcoming Beyond the SEA title match between Rina Yamashita and ASUKA, with some background information on the two and their history, before once again giving predictions

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This podcast is part of the drapping sue flex podcast network. Find US whether you get your podcast and visit us at topsticks and Nevelscom the daily articles about wrestling from around the globe. Hell, Ladies and Gentlemen, and welcome to the second episode of the beyond the seat podcast. I am value oast of a day and I am joined, as usual, by Conrad, my my coast looking Rad. Are You doing today? Yeah, I'm good. Thanks for how are you so well? I'm pretty go this week. Seet yea. Yeah, I'm pretty good in this instman. Monday evening. We've got a whole bunch of stuff to do today, for so we're going to do a create a real quick recap of the February twentys, is twenty six, show the well the settling new leaf at Chintq face event, and then we're going to beat out talking about, for the main topic of today, the the event of the next Thursday, next Thorty, next Wednesday, I should say, mainly feature me in the featuring the gator dream tournament, detecting tournament and the beyond the seat title match, which which will be featuring us. K of is really Mashida following Yoshiko's you she go really, really in quishing the title, given she is going to be injured for a few months, for a few more months that she's she's going to have to go to to go to surgery, so she's going to be off for a while and a new champion of will the crowned. So starting to starting up, I suggest we move back towards February twenty six, with a quick creep of them. That event, that show started with a rookie, with a rookie, was rookie match, Honori Hannah's Weco Kaiju honor Iraq. Holorie Hannah was victorious. She has been the most how do I work this? Let's say she she's been the most, not advanced, but she yeah, she's been having the the upper hand, and I believe she debuted a little bit before Kai juw's. I guess makes it makes sense to estabulation, some kind of done of dynamic between the two. Then we have it. We had an I speak three way between because of Himoto, a a carry and Tickla. I speak rules. Of course it's because of Fujimoto. Won That match in approximately ten minutes. Then we moved on to Yoshiko's return mat taking on side or partnered...

K Kobay actually facing area machine and O key. They won that match in a proximately eighteen minutes. And then in the main events, essentially, well, not just a big not just the biggest match. Well, so we kind of at the biggest single of that show. It was a citrus wind. There is like a gime. that a reason I could gear and any Takahi and your new West member, Rico Kawahata, facing let's ris the wo he says, askt in. My Koto and Scusha Ruka sit was swinging one that match and as we and as we could, as we could witness, the new faction citrus ween was officially formed. Son A GIMA, Takashi Kawahata and also on a return I joining the that s tables. That's how we closed that event. Could when I'm going to ask you is what's your main takeaway of the term from that show? Yeah, I think the closed angle both the main event. I don't know. There was some about that. The actual match. That kind of didn't quite hit with me like at least it's I'm used to kind of sailing tag team and events like in my mind, a kind of like really intense sprints and this is kind of a little bit more like, I don't know, lighthearted. I guess that, if you can put it like that, be are. I think it kind of freshens things up a little bit and with like this new unit with, I think kind of makes sense, with nine narrator be INTAC champions, and I think it could kind of Alebout Henry Hannah further as well. Say I think it's a lookingople s Amer goes on said, of anything like from the end of the shows. We haven't really seen a not yet. Yeah, because say good, yeah, most definitely. Like it seems like the domain, the main focus of that of that new faction moving forward should be to elevate on no Rihanna to some sort of a new standard. Will see how that goes on, but surely to me with the likes of like a gym and Takash's going to help in that sense. So definitely looking forward to definitely looking forward today, I should say next we're going to move we're going to move on well to one of the two be big events from for scheduled forward and next Wednesday show. First to get a dream tag team tournament. The winner of this tournament is going to be offered one wish. We have no idea what this which is going to be. Maybe. Well, I guess we could. We could make the guess that it would be a tag team title challenge. Well, UN well attacting tile match, I should say, but maybe could be something different. Who knows? As for the participants, we have the current beyond the sea tag team, chippings I recently Kudina, and then Takahi, representing citrus wind, also representing citrus. When we out, we have Rico, Kawahata and Onorihana. We have detect team build as the high speed harmy, she get she NAGASHIMA and Sakushia Uka. We have less...

FRESA, the EGOIST, has Makoto, Enrico Kaiju to make up, and then we have here much motto and need to Kooki, who the latter is now unique, please. Following the flowing Maxi voltage treaties, bending and Leslie from Yoshiko's you know unit. We have Ko Kobayashi and I am issls. I'm right into instrument. As for before she'm moving on to the tournament matches quickly. Issue went to looking at this field, should to bet on a one team to make it too well, to window to window hall team who D bound? Well, I think Makata and Rico Kaichi. We kind of been with a shout, I think it's fair to say, like with the wish likely being attacked entitle mach say. This is where like me thinking I can put it the future getst me. So I'm thinking that restarn and I'm going to go out in that first match, and it kind of makes sense for it to happen like that. But yeah, I think I think, okay, Kabashi and I'm a Satamora are in with a showerviously being part of your Shik's growth, and again my Goto and Ricka Kaiju with Aska being in the main event of the show. And I could kind of set up like a nice bit of kind of perhaps a short run of dominance of the last prest the egoist has as kind of the I don't know, kind of like running roughshot over seed link. But yelling is very much but it's largely open the other it should be fun see link tag matches. I've always been would have been good for the best part of the year now at least so. Yeah, I'm looking forwards this one. Yeah, most definitely end with them. The time. Many time of it's in the first yes, very true. Yes, we've got, if I remember correctly, it's I think it's the I know. Yes, yeah, yeah, I speed to match as a ten minute tangle. It's well, of all first round matches. F These twenty the still playing me Twi is the semi finals. Whichever twenty minute one. And Yeah, as you said, this story and should be deficiently definitely looks pretty open due to well, one thing being done, the wish grind, which we we which, as we said, we don't really know what it's going to be. And as we're going to move on to what makes these tournaments open, they talk about the matches themselves. The first all, the first round match is will see faceoff, first of all, you're a match motto, and it's a kioki facing Ko Kawaya Shei, and I am as a Mura. And the other match, which is the, I guess, more interesting one, is Nanatakashi and I wists like a Gima facing...

Chicago like a Shima, and s Kushi Uka in I speed roles. So that that's the more interesting match given the team name of Nashima and Uruka are ice are the I speed army. So maybe maybe there's an advantage there and maybe you could see a nap. I guess maybe we could see an upset there. With the champions are coming short ended in the tournaments and moving on to the semis. I we have two teams having a bye, a first round by we have real Rico Kawahata and Honorihanna, who will be facing in the summis the winner the winners of Matsumoto an Alkiers, go by Ashian, Sasa Mura, and same thing for the last race a day guys as duo Makoto, Enrico Kaiju. They will they'll be facing the winners of the ice speed match between citrus wind and the I speed army, and then these two teams and then the two winners of those two semis will collide in the finals. So yeah, looking at those matches quickly. which would be which would be your predictions, at least for the first round and matches? Hmm See, I'm kind of leaning toward woods high speed army for their match, just because it's in the high speed rules. I can kind of see them catching out, so to speaker, a rest and I, which I think would be quite an interest in direction to go in. And I think the first kind of opening round match is relatively open. But I guess car cover she and Ims us some more pretty good my prediction, just because I don't know. I feel I can see. This is where I'm my experience. Image number that last we dad. Yeah, I'm kind of like more invested in I am a as a wrestler and I've seen more of CO cover she as well. So that is kind of my main reason and because I want to see them go. If I have to give you a reason, I would say that seems daring, since they are part of your Sikaus. You need, I would expect, The Dominion Phases being put on the under main seedling sections outside rather than the more quote unquote random bearings. I guessed that would be mast Letian. Now most different read distremains a very open match and I think it I think at the end of I think, at the end of the day, you've you also have to look at which, yeah, which team could be the most interesting to face the yeah, the younger citter screen...

...tech team, and it would probably lean towards yeah, coayaciances or under undestined point as well. So the Medicim win O keeparing, being very experienced, could be could be an interesting matchup as well. Unless we've got anything, unless you've got anything to add, we're going need the tournament. I guess we can move on to the main events show you about, like the majority of our kind of discussion will be, especially with kind of if seeing like even like non seeling viewers talking about like this match. I don't know, like I think it's like the woman that they've kind of picked to go into this match and obviously asker kind of having the recent kind of mainstream, quote unquote, with the a tow appearances and kind of more people away her now as is be like I bought the astro high train. You know what. Good, welcome the join us. But but yeah, I'm very, very, very excited for this match, especially after kind of doing it very reason that and, you know, kind of getting a bit of in the standard and now I find it my prediction that, which obviously we're going to light that isn't as quick because it was so talking about that this very exciting mentment. Yep, indeed, so we're this main event for the being, the city singles championship will as a CAF Srinay macheda. So to break down the match up a little bit, we're gonna we're going to give you all some facts and then some well, I guess, I guess, prose of our specific points to to make a case for each woman to win the to a tree window match and become chickin. Starting stunning off with the actual record between the two, which these two have faced six times in the past. We know you Mashita as one, as one five. As won five times and as and obviously Aska only once. As I guess, Soul victory came. I came in November, on November twenty two thousand and eighteen. Also smashes. They took place in for wrestling wave and during a you ma, she's only one, the one, the only match feature engage championship, the Origineti wave title in September two thousand and seventeen, which also happened to be the longest. Today eight. So I guess the first thing that we can we can say and the first observation that we can make, he should say, is that, based off records, it's pretty clear that Drina enters with a clear advantage there. And if would be easy to say that the tread,...

...it would be easy to say that the trend of Rena, your machine, that beating as a kind big tail matches, would continue here, I think I think you would agree with that. Yeah, I think it's hard to go against Rena like knowing that cut that kind of a statistical advantage and kind of but then on the flipside could kind of said that both women have kind of gone and they've got much more experience and obviously Rena is doing pretty much everything at the minute about death matching kind of more traditional wrestlers. Well and and yeah, I think it's interested in with like four four years removed, the three four years removed from that last kind of meeting in single competition and how both are kind of progressed. Absolutely is going to be even more interesting to see how us can, especially as progress following her or too. I think it's going to be our third beyond the sea single style match, following the last suffered to I recently, could gimalize here, and the other loss of her to that I Takashi. So it's going to be interesting to see yeah, the progress that she made, that you meet in that since that time. And regarding Rena, or the fact that we can throw in is that she has a very significant, significant ties which former former champion Yoshiko, as we talked in the in the last podcasting and in the seedling guy that we did. She was, alongside your she god, the very first beyond the sea TAC team champions as part of border less. So they have, they have this past in comments incoming and there is a little bit of of spice, I guess, and emotional stakes to the editor mix with for renfe she were to win and to just just more investment there and on that side. And she also happened to mention your Shika during the during the press, during the press conference that they had, I believe. So yeah, there's love that and of course we can. We can. We cannot mentioned the whole ties with Yoshiko with without speculating about the potential face off whenever your Sheiko we return, depending in really free in a you machine actually also the belt up until Yoshika resturns. That that would depend. That remains to be seen. I should say. Um, what else can we wells can with add well, quite of quite. I shouldn't see quite. I shouldn't say quite obviously because it's thought up, because this is not it's the obvious for everyone. But realize the more experienced workers of the two. She's been wrestling for approximityly two more years than this guy, for recall correctly, and and since...

...the start of two thousand and twenty one she has been. She's been more prominent globally within the world of wrestling. She's been. She's been in a few big title matches, the Dowey Nice Tribune against because of Fushimoto, which has made a real good amount of buzz. The King of Freedom Style tag title match as well against failed violent to check and my mamma, Sizaki. Who was she teeming with? I don't remember what's it me rule Fujita, thinking my opinion of yeah, I know she's I know she's up and changed in the air the research, but yeah, like I know she is part of a chain, but I'm not. But I'm not always entirely sure of who was the her partner. Her text important there and Leslie in pure Jay she faced I I coulsado and Madeline for the daily Sports Tag. Yeah, for for Rena meschina. She's she's quite a complete chess, quite a complete case, and I'm gonna let you and I'm gonna move on there. For them, well, I should say I'm going to let you take them, take down forum for has a excuse. Yeah, I thought this is kind of fit involksor and Bo when this this match was fir left Nance and we're kind of for on to win, I guess. Yeah. So, yeah, Asker, I think for you kind of make a case for her kind of being fit featured. I guess not higher up the kind of more kind of in the big the role, obviously as leader of a last fritzide go says, which could be a significant boost for those around her and potential, as we mentioned earlier, central callous for a run on top for that faction, which I think would be quite dressed in to the reason a gem of the Vengel, a loss from last year. But then you could make the same case with winning young Chet. But there's also from Aska, the kind of the fact that I could kick there is out of that faction. And but then also from a business point, you would make a lot of sense because again, as we've mentioned, the recent appearances in a tow as part of the woman's of the as ornament and the amount of was that she created just from what too much is, was it? I think it's a six woman in the the match against on the ACCURA. Yeah, it was from the last months. Yeah, both of those got me to watch ab so really do incident right. But yeah, I think I think make kind of I think I prefer ask I to kind of start, although I appreciate, like read, I can kind of restle more like like a variety of start...

...really, really well. Obviously we see it like frequently in death mat promotions like a free gems and working like more technicals to style matches against the likes of very slatic humor in sailing. In the the time match that she lost that much, and I think this is around a year since since we're in a challenge and a year since after kicked the race out. So I guess you could do you could have ties to both than the importance of this match. Yeah, because, yeah, because there's a Rena challenge at this you leave showest here and they believe the date. I believe the date was a much DNS so, which would be basically, yeah, a week later, so essentially, essentially a year later, following down that beat, well, well, that that big margin they'd ended be angle featuring us going and areas a flowing the match. So, yeah, let's go straight to to the bit, to the big question, I guess, which is who's your peak to become the new settling beyond the sea singles chicken? I think it's two very different for things like who I want to win and who I think. Yeah, I think just knowing the statistical advantage and kind of the cut the ties to Yashik which could set up the boarderless kind of like face off for that title when you she can return and hopefully, hopefully, sooner rather than later. Yeah, I think that's kind of enough reasoning for Rena to be my pick. But then I want to ask her to win simply because she's kind of created that more, more, more buzz in like the wider wrestling world, and I think it's like fans. I think a lot of us kind of want those promotions to get at like a little little bit bigger as time goes on, the kind of get more rather than slightly. Really Awesome. Rest of that. I think that's could be in the beyond the sea champion and if she obviously nothing to confound yet, but if she wants to get like an of the call for me to be, maybe we can see an instant similar to Yeshiko at the boot of Cain, where she comes up with the belts and promote it like that. But yeah, it's really amash sheet to win, but I'll be rooting for ask it. Yeah, well, I see. I be pretty much agree with with all overr of your argument. I was also peaking the Machia because, well, she is the more experienced worker of the two. She has been the one holding, holding, holding more Tom Audio, more molt, more championships in career. I guess she would be the more trusted figure of the two if you if you just need somebody to feel in and, well, yeah, feel the gap before one of your bigger stars return. Now. Even then, Rina was also one of the the first, I guess, well, sort of big names to appear in seedling during the first few months and first year of of...

...the company existing. So having her finally being crown champion would be quite a bit moment in that aspect as well. And yet even then, looking at the Aska, I guess one of the bigger points that we could make and we're going to address and we're going to address that during the questions part, or should say, which is your with with your she go out. You kind of need someone else to step up, and this is also the perfect moment created. But well, not to such create a new star, because in a sense asks Al Radios are, but just to have someone new step up and and yeah, I sent to a new level. And ASKA would be perfect for the troll and as now she is pretty much leading as Raidy goastas and a yes, she would be that. She would be the dead that new figure as sending in, sending into league, and that opens and I'd hope the develed open a lot of opportunities going forward. So they're at the end of the day, there is really a strunkise for both forming to make, which is really interesting aspect of dispens from me. I think it's kind of again, it's like really interesting because kind of kind of now that we've kind of discussed and there is kind of definitely arguments to be made for both, and it's not just a matter of well, they're both kind of they both like stand out before me as who could both kind of carry that kind of not even like the Adrob a kind of be that the Jaco is out injuries, which I think from our read was around three months recovery. That's what I read, I believe. Yees. So it's not the suit's not the biggest feeling rain that could have. Like she's she she should be, she should be back for on summertimes. It's like me vous could be start going to be very long. That, I feel I could kind of also be a case for. I feel that reff for would be kind of like you could do like that kind of face off between the two type partners. I feel like ask US probably well, I'd like a longer rain. It's a kind of simply because she's a faction later, but then we really could kind of have a kind of have a a hangers. What more you you guys, that one a pretty good match with issue. Can maybe it look at draw, which would be rare if she can reclaim it and you can have in the chase for a little bit. But yes, it's very kind of definitely a lot of possibilities for the situation aloud, sailing saving from that, making it a good scenario from not the best circumstances. Yeah,...

...absolutely, yeah, good. It could have from the Gooda prob them of from for sitting this match. With your you've been, you're being hit with with you what arguably your number one top talent at the moment being having suffered, well, I should have cumulate a bunch of injuries or the last few months and innocence couldn't go finally going down and having to go to take surgery and just and just heal and giving a giving us this kind of match it's like to meet. The way I see treet probably was the best choice to the bit, the best choice of performance to go with, obviously, the likes of Nana and how reason. You didn't need them in that in that position, giving the attect champions, and they've been runner heavily featured, especially Aresa, over the last few months and years. Like the two have been very prominiar figures around the tail scene. And now you get to you get from these two to the these two women at that level, which is pretty neat and no matter what, at the end of the day, it really feels like, no matter no matter who wins and who lo this is like both women will really benefit from actually being in that match and yeah, like there is no there's no I guess there's. I guess there reason not. There is no downside. Is We're I'm getting it now that we've do with now that we've pretty much, God, every I guess we've got pretty much everything tackled, like we don't think we're re forgetting anything. So should we actually should we move on to do social media section and just getting in, just ripping this thing up? Y'All gonna say, if you want, who we finished the Oh, yeah, the question. Yeah, we'rely had one this way, which was kind of I don't know, we've had kind of like mixed feedback, I guess, but I think some people kind of happy, thought that were caught. We're not happy, but kind of into the that that we were kind of accepting questions, but then others were kind of a bit and a bit disappointed. And like how long it went last like pretty much matching the amount time we thought the actual kind of going zone, which is totally unstandable and we appreciate the see back. So yeah, yes, the question this week from Mikey, who asked their question last week, and this is quite interesting one. Actually got me thinking about who? Who I put into this situation? So question was renaversed. Aska is a huge pot for both. But with your she come out for a while. Who?...

Who Else, either a roster member or freelancer, would you like to see qushed into a more permanent role? This is definitely a very interesting not offer that one out you first. Yeah, this is a very, a very interesting question. I didn't really I had a really hard time figure trying to figure out a name. Now, at the end of the day, I would probably lean towards the well, not a worst remember or I free answer, but I missed them roofed to aw for. Yeah, two reasons, one being that she's fall of the main unit in seedling being your sheels faction. So that's one more wrestler which should be present from prominently seedling that you can elevate. She and she's also a farmer beyond the seat. Tag Team Champions Songs and that a recently Kuchia and she also changed like a chimer for the for the single style. In words, well, I think it was in late to those dainteen. I believe I'm getting my years wrong in it will. I mean I'm completely in my years wrong here. It was it was a late dozen, nineteen, but anyways, she has been in that position where she has been man she has held a championship and sealing and she also challenge for the top one. So yeah, outside of, I am it just being a pretty good wrestling Chinal, she's someone which I feel like, as already dip her, toes enough in seedling to elevated, being elevated a bit more because actually, yeah, I'm that way of my answer. I think three years. Yeah, yeah, like, I mean she's got three years of experience. If I'm not mistaken, you should be long thought. If she gets faction. Yeah, that she kindrew. She's been not really consistent. Every stots inner and kind it better. Like just all the upside to it, and I think it's kind of your she could present while not having if she could present on shows, if that makes sense. But also I was also thinking ritish and Ghacky, because she's and now I'm sure you show you like pretty good a proof of yeah, I think it'd be good for to aw. Yeah. Yeah, I think having the kind of to a tow and seedling crossover can only be like good, I think, to a of you in terms of kind of Joey talent at the minute. This kind of, and I've only that two mainstays in I am and realising Jacky, which could kind of and I feel having like that more, like more involvement in ceiling would be good if we both kind of it's having...

Brittish and Ghacky in that kind of in Siede Ling like even it's just like a cup of coffee or so like. artically it's very quite different. But like Jake Lee from all Japan come in overs to it, do you for like of a coffee appearance and some like? So a similar to that, like so just to kind of as the numbers and get some like new matches. I think he's the key. But basically what I'm trying to get at your new matches fresh and it's kind of a the way. Yeah, I like the I like the renish gay peach, not just because of personal players but also because she's been she's been kimming with I we we di Amy as well and they've been and deep being, gaining a little bit of success, as as appearing recently winning the tactiles and Diana. So that would be another pairing you could add around around the other present tag teams to a not yeah, fresh matches and possess poentially other pretty good, pretty good matches. And Yeah, just have have the little bit of fresh hair with a new pairing entering. And maybe, I guess I would be as that would be too much big a lating. But maybe I think you're reaching ga Ki Joining Yours faction as well, and truly, but that remains to be seen. And as for the second question of from my key, which is a little bit, a little bit similar to the one he has, he has last week into seriousness, and if you could posit for you on a Rihanna is getting a bye to the second round, the chief of the committee, we don't know. Now this is a very interesting theory, so we'll keep you know. You know what we're going to we're going to keep the the toll buying of the comedy thing in mind and if there is anything else happening, so something like I like another buy of anything, we're going to just keep accumulating the proofs and stuff like that and eventually see if Ana Ana Rihanna actually as, let's say, more of a more of an ad, more of an advantage of something that or something like that. We'll see. We'll see what happens with that. And anyways, with the with the questions done, I suggest move on to actually, this time closing out this podcast. Yes, I so. Yeah, first of all, next week. What we do in next week? We're doesn't look, doesn't that be any show this next week? So I just had an idea. You know what we're going to do and I'm going I'm telling you this right now so that our listeners can publishing give us some ideas. One of the things we talked about is discussing...

...former why? Just a past sealing matches. So when I suggested for ours or first, well, the first of occurrence of us like most likely doing this every they will likely not be much big use. Well, I guess we're. Well, I guess this week we're going to cover them. We're going to recap the the show. We just could just coverage today. But if we do, for when we do one of these past matches coverage, when do you suggested that all of you guys, are of you guys listening to us, to to this podcast, actually give us suggestions for for this first document us. So do we get so done? We get some yes sees, some some interuction, with you and see and see, would you which matches you guys would like to like us to talk about? Yeah, and perhaps we could have a person who suggests the MAC could be on as a guest or something, if you will, probably your whole if your matches win, then yeah, keep keep the show fresh. But yes, of valve. And where can people find you on the social media's? Well, I can only found out on twitter atmagine as well, which is my personal account, and my blogs account, Alve at that Baltox purel for all of my articles and writing work. Okay, and there you can find me on twitter at I'll compact too, neute, which is our compaton it, but with two eyes. And you get the gist at this point. And Yeah, follow follow shop kicks and their force for all the Dragon suplex looks their force updates at near force media and followed this podcast at the seed cast and we look forward to hearing your math suggestions. And thank you very much listening. Vow and I shall speak to you very, very soon, a slowly. Well, see you next time.

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